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HDD vs SSD?

Postby LecktheTech » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:45 pm

I will have a computer with a GTX 960m, and a i5 6300HQ, and a 1TB HDD and a empty disk bay. What I'm wondering is if I should buy a SSD for operating system/software or if the HDD should suffice. I an thinking of some gaming, but not all that much.



Or have all the hardware techies left?
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Re: HDD vs SSD?

Postby Xeno » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:33 pm

An SSD is optimal for booting your OS from and having applications installed on for much faster loading times. That said, it sounds like you're using a laptop based on the parts you've listed, so you're sure you have space for an additional drive?
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Re: HDD vs SSD?

Postby LecktheTech » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:58 am

Yeah, there is a drive bay free. I've been toying around with the idea of getting a ssd to use as well, but I'm not sure that the performance gain is enough to be worth the additional cost, especially since the additional storage isn't required.
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Re: HDD vs SSD?

Postby Rusty Claymore » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:23 am

For a laptop I would go with SSD, since there are no moving parts. It's also lighter, if I am not mistaken, which is also a big plus for portable computers.
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Re: HDD vs SSD?

Postby shooraijin » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:44 am

And very likely uses less power, too.
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Re: HDD vs SSD?

Postby IPv4 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:12 pm

Not sure if a ssd will be fast if its mounted as an external drive unless you have some kind of risky RAID configured in BIOS. I could be wrong though
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Re: HDD vs SSD?

Postby LecktheTech » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:41 pm

There's a PCI-M.2 slot for the hdd, the laptop can be bought with a ssd in it as well as the hdd, but I bought mine without it.
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Re: HDD vs SSD?

Postby IPv4 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:57 pm

Im pretty confident theres a way to mount a ssd if theres an open slot on the laptop. My concern was if the ssd would utlize its full potential if you have the operating system installed on the HDD and then load programs from the SSD.
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Re: HDD vs SSD?

Postby Xeno » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:19 pm

LecktheTech wrote:There's a PCI-M.2 slot for the hdd, the laptop can be bought with a ssd in it as well as the hdd, but I bought mine without it.

I'm fairly certain that an M.2 HDD isn't a thing. M.2 drives look this this:
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Mechanical platters won't fit on that for obvious reasons. If you can install the SSD and move your OS install to it then you're golden, otherwise you won't notice a performance increase. This is reading like you don't really have a "drive bay" available so much as an unused M.2 slot. M.2 SSDs are exponentially more expensive than SATA3 SSDs. So more than likely, you'll spend more than you'll gain.
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Re: HDD vs SSD?

Postby LecktheTech » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:47 pm

I was meaning a SSD, not a HDD.
Ahh, that's why the all of the models with SSD's were quite a bit more....
I've not done much at all with hardware, so I was unaware of what a PCI m.2 slot was.

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M.2 SSDs are exponentially more expensive than SATA3 SSDs. So more than likely, you'll spend more than you'll gain.[/quote]
Well, I guess that finishes that. If I were to put a SSD in, I'd not pay more than $80. So, the stock drive it is.
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Re: HDD vs SSD?

Postby IPv4 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:38 am

a m.2 ssd cost about the same as a normal ssd. PCIe m.2 ssd on the other hand are more expensive but there are cheaper ones. For instance this PCI ssd cost $170 (https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-MZVPV256 ... B015CWQY4Q), which is nowhere near "exponentially" more expensive.

There may also be a way to mount m.2 ssds to the pci slot with an adapter but you may have to check on that.
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Re: HDD vs SSD?

Postby Xeno » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:58 am

256 GB PCIe m.2 drive for $170 vs a 250 GB SATA3 SSD being like $80. Yeah, that's a pretty substantial increase in cost.
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Re: HDD vs SSD?

Postby LecktheTech » Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:18 pm

About a 2x increase? That's substantial in my book.
As for an adapter, that doesn't sound very stable, especially in a laptop. I'll give that a look though.
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Re: HDD vs SSD?

Postby LecktheTech » Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:55 pm

Looks like most of the adapters are designed for a desktop, so the form factor wouldn't work. Besides, it would be about another $20 at least, so it'd not be worth it.
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Re: HDD vs SSD?

Postby IPv4 » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:45 am

lets dig deeper: intel PCIe ssd $89. It will be black friday soon so theres a possibility that it will be on sale.

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-600p-SSDPE ... el+pci+ssd
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Re: HDD vs SSD?

Postby Xeno » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:35 pm

So it looks like my research from about 12 months ago is fairly outdated and the PCIe versions of m.2 form factor cards are getting a lot cheaper. As an alternative to that Intel one, I'd suggest a Samsung 960 EVO. It's $30 more, but it's read/write speed is much, much faster. http://www.samsung.com/us/computing/mem ... -v6e250bw/

Look in your users manual though and make absolute sure the laptop requires a PCIe and not a SATA3 m.2 drive. m.2 is a form factor, and it's the bus type that actually matters here, if you buy the wrong one and your computer doesn't support both, you're up a creek.
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Re: HDD vs SSD?

Postby LecktheTech » Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:44 am

Just checked the docs, it supports PCIe M.2 SSD's. Notes that they're third-gen. Also, supports up 2.2 Gbyte/sec read.

If I could find a 128GB+ PCIe SSD for less than $90, I might buy it. The performance would help with load times everywhere, which would be appreciated, but not required.
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Re: HDD vs SSD?

Postby Xeno » Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:33 am

I'd wait for that Samsung 960 EVO drive I linked to go on sale on Newegg or Amazon and snag it then.
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Re: HDD vs SSD?

Postby LecktheTech » Sat Oct 29, 2016 8:29 am

This is a better price for what IPv4 listed.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... -_-Product
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Re: HDD vs SSD?

Postby LecktheTech » Sat Oct 29, 2016 8:35 am

It seems to me that SSD's will replace HDD's in the future, just as soon as they can make them cheaper than HDD's.

I'd like to dual-boot, and it'd be nice to have a SSD big enough for that, but really, the 1 TB HDD will suffice.
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