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Postby Mave » Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:39 am

Ack ack ack.....updates, here we go again.

Chapter 7: Page 11-12 added. Pardon any spelling/grammar errors this time. UC, I will censor that term in pg 10 to reflect what I truly intended, thanks!
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Postby Nami » Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:39 am

Yay! updates! No worries Mave! We aren't to rushed for time XDD We can wait! It should be the readers who understand that the writer/artist needs and break, and we should give the writer/Artist that respect XD
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Postby Mave » Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:37 am

Ack, I forgot to post the last update! For those who depend on this thread for updates, pages 13 - 16 have been added. ^^

Hi Nami, that's nice of you to say that. ;) *encouraged* YOSH!
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Postby Mave » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:22 am

Chapter 7 is completed, two last pages added. ^^
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Postby uc pseudonym » Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:59 pm

I think this update really defines Linda's character more for me. For whatever that is worth. Now for the unimportant details...

Page 17
Panel 4: I think you mean "distance" instead of "distant."
Panel 6: "Weirdo creepo" sounds a bit odd to me. Creepy weirdo? Any variation without the "o" repetition is good. Or maybe I just haven't heard that one. Funny panel, anyway.

Page 18
Panel 6: "Ever since" got crunched into one word.
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Postby jon_jinn » Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:50 pm

man. i love this webmanga. it's SOOO good! keep up the good work mave!!! :thumb:
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Postby uc pseudonym » Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:57 pm

Glad that you think so. Unfortunately, I post here to provide an unfortunate piece of news: Mave is currently in another life transition and is going to be on haitus for at least a month.
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Postby c.t.,girl » Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:38 pm

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Postby Raiden no Kishi » Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:35 pm

Hmm. "Linda picks on Gil to keep him out of trouble," huh? I, like Kim aparently does, am not entirely sure that's the reason. : : innocently mischievous smile : : Besides, that doesn't make any sense at all. How does picking on someone keep them out of trouble?

As far as one temperamental girl who focuses her wrath on you or a legion of fangirls . . . gee, that's a tough one. Part of me says the fangirls would be interesting, but I'm sure that would get old rather quickly. On the other hand, it would be irritating and would hurt for one girl to focus her displeasure entirely on me, especially if she was a friend of mine. Sounds like the choice between being shot with a revolver or autoloading pistol to me. XD

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Postby Mave » Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:57 am

UC, thanks for the corrections although I fully intended "Weirdo Creepo." XD Will fix the pages once I get the chance to work on comics again (whenever that would be, goodness). Also, thanks for letting others know about my temporary hiatus! Yes, folks. I will be rather busy in the next few weeks and cannot promise any new pages for the time being. My apologies in advance. Take heart, I will never leave a story unfinished unless I die before completion. :eh:

Raiden, as you may already have suspected.... Linda isn't supposed to make much sense at this point. She's evolving into a rather strange character (in a relative sense, I suppose) and I guess that it will take a few more chapters to get into her mindset, which hopefully will help us understand why she does what she does. I also want to point out that observation was solely Paul's. Paul may be a leader but that doesn't make him right all the time.

Temperamental girl vs legion of fangirls: Heh. As a female, I find fangirls quite scary and PMSing women terrifying. I can only imagine how dreadful both would be for the average guy (who I suspect would have a harder time understanding fangirlism and female hormones).
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Postby Ryupower » Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:22 pm

wow, it's finally up? :O
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Chapter 8

Postby Mave » Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:52 am

Ryupower wrote:wow, it's finally up? :O

Oro??

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Folks, I am pleased to announce that KingdomCome resumes activity: Chapter 8 begins.

Thanks to those who have been faithfully sticking around as I scrambled to get my personal life in order during my 2-3 month hiatus! ;)
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Postby jon_jinn » Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:15 pm

good to hear that you're back on track.

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Postby uc pseudonym » Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:36 pm

Odd that I have to check a forum in order to find out about an update on a website I help run...

It's great to see another chapter beginning, though. I have a tendency to forget what happened previously, but this one set the scene without going over too much previous ground. You'd think Kim would clarify, but perhaps that's just me.
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Postby Mithrandir » Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:59 am

[quote="Mave"]Thanks to those who have been faithfully sticking around as I scrambled to get my personal life in order during my 2-3 month hiatus! ]
Your personal life was on back-order this whole time?

*ducks*

Good to see you're back on! :thumb:
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Postby Mave » Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:52 am

Mithrandir wrote:Your personal life was on back-order this whole time?

*ducks*

Good to see you're back on! :thumb:


*misses OldMith by an inch* LOL You're quick!

Thanks, it's great to be back. Let's hope I'll be around for a longer period of time. There were too many interruptions last year.

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uc pseudonym wrote: You'd think Kim would clarify, but perhaps that's just me.

Hehe, it probably is. I can see myself doing what Kim did. I'm not sure why but I would lean towards "Hmm....that's strange. OK, I'll ask her about this later."
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Postby Mave » Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:43 pm

If all goes well, we should have a regular update of 2-3 pages per week.

With that said, Page 2 & 3 added. XD
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Postby jon_jinn » Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:14 pm

cool! a weekly update!! nice! anyways, keep up the good work mave!!
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Postby Mave » Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:58 pm

*crawls into thread*

My apologies. I forgot to take Chinese New Year into account and was occupied with that holiday season. Thanks for your patience!

4 pages added! XD Huzzah.
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Postby Raiden no Kishi » Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:16 am

Huzzah indeed!

I didn't notice the other Bible study members last time the group met. I thought it was just the main characters. Gil's dismissal of Berserk reminds me of my occasional music-related rants [not all of them aimed at secular artists].

A website-related note: The "Next" and "Previous" links appear to be somewhat out of whack. The "Next" links took me backwards.

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Postby uc pseudonym » Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:13 pm

Huzzah seconded. I'm liking the current plot progression, actually. It will be interesting to see where it leads.

Raiden no Kishi wrote:Gil's dismissal of Berserk reminds me of my occasional music-related rants [not all of them aimed at secular artists].

He pretty much agrees with me. I like him better now, thanks to these pages.

I found that the Next and Previous links seemed switched, myself.
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Postby Mave » Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:21 am

Thanks for the note! I've corrected the link.

I hesitated on putting in that whole conversation because I didn't want him to be annoying. I thought that some folks may take his dismissal as being arrogant or almost elitist from a musical preference standpoint. In a way, it's good to hear some agreeing with him. Thanks for the feedback!

Now, this does bring me to share something that has been in my head for a while now.

For all you storywriters out there, do you find yourself intentionally creating characters that you don't like or don't really understand?

I ask this because I think so far, some KCome characters could be annoying, fickled-minded, superficially happy-go-lucky, stubborn and anti-social. Crazy as it sounds, I'm sometimes frustrated with my own characters for what they think or do! So far, I've had occasional moments where I wouldn't mind smacking Doug, Kim or Linda.

But then. I remind myself that these characters should be around 14-16 years old with the exception of the adults (i.e. manager, teacher, Doug's sister.....one day I'll reveal her name). Oh wait, I haven't decided Doug's age yet but ah never mind. I pose this question first, "Are most of the characters acting like their age (with the exception of Doug)?"

Honestly, I don't want the kids acting older than they really are....*cough GundamWing cough.* I mean, teenagers as politicians and army dictators? I do not mean any offence to any of my teenage friends but I'm just trying to be realistic. When I was 15 years old, all I wanted to do was collect stickers, ride my bicycle, chat on the phone with friends and listen to pop music (yes, boybands).

What were you doing when you were 15?
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Postby soul alive » Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:59 am

Great to see you back, Mave!

I find your characters believable for their age - teens have a pretty wide range of behavior. I was always pretty serious, but my friends were still giggling over boys like they were 11 when we graduated high school. *shrug*

Hm, at 15, I was pretty much busy being a nerd - band, speech & debate, science bowl, science fair, 4H. And the rest of the time I had my nose stuck in a book.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:31 pm

Mave wrote:I hesitated on putting in that whole conversation because I didn't want him to be annoying. I thought that some folks may take his dismissal as being arrogant or almost elitist from a musical preference standpoint.

Heh. No, it struck me as fairly characteristic, if a bit of a whirlwind of objections. I actually felt that bit of dialog was better than standard (not that your standard is bad).

Mave wrote:For all you storywriters out there, do you find yourself intentionally creating characters that you don't like or don't really understand?

That's a very interesting thought. For the most part, no. I like most of my characters in one way or another. Some of them are very unlike me, but I feel that I generally understand their character and why they are who they are.

After some reflection, however, I realize I have a tendency to make characters that are more shallow than I like. This can probably be traced to a pride problem, in that I tend to think the majority of everyone is pretty shallow.

Mave wrote:But then. I remind myself that these characters should be around 14-16 years old with the exception of the adults (i.e. manager, teacher, Doug's sister.....one day I'll reveal her name). Oh wait, I haven't decided Doug's age yet but ah never mind. I pose this question first, "Are most of the characters acting like their age (with the exception of Doug)?"

Honestly, I don't want the kids acting older than they really are....*cough GundamWing cough.* I mean, teenagers as politicians and army dictators? I do not mean any offence to any of my teenage friends but I'm just trying to be realistic. When I was 15 years old, all I wanted to do was collect stickers, ride my bicycle, chat on the phone with friends and listen to pop music (yes, boybands).

I've never thought about that specifically, I guess. But that's mostly because, despite the fact that they're in high school, I've always thought about them as being older because they look so much older.
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Postby Raiden no Kishi » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:12 am

Well, I don't know about the rest of you, but when I was fifteen I was waging a one-man war on an oppressive military government with my secretly-designed mobile suit. Duh. ^_~

As to the characters, I saw them as late high-school to early college-age, myself. Abel's really the only one who looks like he could be 14-16, but that's just me.

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Postby Mave » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:46 pm

Interesting feedback, thanks! Although I originally had 14-16 years in mind, I'm open to raising their ages to late high school. That's the beauty of obscuring information in the beginning. XD

Perhaps my art style has evolved a little, making them look older overall. I noticed more angular face structures as opposed to the rounder structure (typically used to indicate youth). Abel is meant to look more child-like than the rest so I can see what you mean, Raiden.

Soul alive, now that you mentioned it, I was involved in some school activities but I honestly can't remember them right now. UC, shallow you say? Haven't really noticed that. I wonder what that means for myself. LOL
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Postby Nami » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:17 pm

Mave wrote:Thanks for the note! I've corrected the link.

I hesitated on putting in that whole conversation because I didn't want him to be annoying. I thought that some folks may take his dismissal as being arrogant or almost elitist from a musical preference standpoint. In a way, it's good to hear some agreeing with him. Thanks for the feedback!

Now, this does bring me to share something that has been in my head for a while now.

For all you storywriters out there, do you find yourself intentionally creating characters that you don't like or don't really understand?

I ask this because I think so far, some KCome characters could be annoying, fickled-minded, superficially happy-go-lucky, stubborn and anti-social. Crazy as it sounds, I'm sometimes frustrated with my own characters for what they think or do! So far, I've had occasional moments where I wouldn't mind smacking Doug, Kim or Linda.

But then. I remind myself that these characters should be around 14-16 years old with the exception of the adults (i.e. manager, teacher, Doug's sister.....one day I'll reveal her name). Oh wait, I haven't decided Doug's age yet but ah never mind. I pose this question first, "Are most of the characters acting like their age (with the exception of Doug)?"

Honestly, I don't want the kids acting older than they really are....*cough GundamWing cough.* I mean, teenagers as politicians and army dictators? I do not mean any offence to any of my teenage friends but I'm just trying to be realistic. When I was 15 years old, all I wanted to do was collect stickers, ride my bicycle, chat on the phone with friends and listen to pop music (yes, boybands).

What were you doing when you were 15?



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Oh? Well, considering I was only 15 a year ago. Let's see. Well, I liked to hang with my friends, I was and still am quite a Punk. I can actually relate to some of your Characters.. I was always poking-fun at people and what they liked.. maybe because when I was little people did that to me too..*shrug* :lol:
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Postby Mave » Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:01 am

LOL well, that's additional relief on my part! If I recall properly, some of my friends had this habit of poking fun at others when we were younger, so I think you and I seem normal. XD

Added 2 pages, btw.
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Postby Raiden no Kishi » Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:40 pm

You know, for some reason, Gil reminds me of Duo Maxwell [from Gundam Wing]. I don't really know why.

That said, I wonder if there will be some tension between Gil and Kim now, considering that Gil basically insulted Kim as a musician to his face [albeit unintentionally]. However, I still think he has a point . . . . hehe.

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Postby yukishiro128 » Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:09 pm

My thoughts:

I think you've portrayed Gil's character perfectly. That's an extremely common personality type, and it's usually overplayed. He's actually my favorite character.

The story's so wonderful--it's not often you find such a spiritually renewing manga like this on the internet (besides the obvious, of course).

The artwork is awesome, but what I like the best is the eyes and hands, especially the hands. As an aspiring artist...well, let's just not mention the hands!

Wonderful job, awesome-greatness! :thumb:
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