Ante Bellum wrote: It's not necessarily bad if a child emulates comics when they first start out, but it's no substitute for proper instruction. A popular artist showing how to emulate a style can (explicitly or subtly) discourage impressionable beginners from improving important skills (anatomy, perspective, form, universal things like those) and finding their own style. "I don't need to learn anatomy because I'm drawing manga" is something I've heard way more often than I'd like. I skimmed through some of his videos and I think that's what he's doing - emulating a style - while skipping over proper understanding. Why did he draw X thing in Y way? Saying "well this is how it is when this happens" isn't enough, because it's not really enough to know how to adapt the idea. The major foundations of art are significantly more in-depth than these types of tutorials can teach.
Ante Bellum wrote:He seems agreeable enough, and he's certainly no Christopher Hart, but I also don't think he's a good teacher. Actually, any "how to draw manga" media is really bad for learning how to draw, so it's not just him. Building up technical skill should remain separate from stylization, and learning the rules must come before breaking them. And really, manga and comic are fundamentally the same thing. It's not like a certain style is going to change that.
Ante Bellum wrote:As for Crilley's "manga" style? Bland, bland, bland as mayonnaise on white bread. What makes it stand out? There are no distinguishing features. Not even something so unique as to be immediately associated with him, but enough to make it look like he has a personal style in the first place? It's just generic, and that makes it feel lifeless. There's also that all-too-common error of letting a character's eye escape their face that's shown up quite a few times. It's a shame, really, because I do think he has potential as a comic artist. He's experimented and emulated many different styles, so the "manga" thing is more restrictive than anything.
Thunderscream872 wrote:Personally, I don't see how being in the spotlight puts him under any obligation to teach people the basics or help them build a foundation. They're fully capable of researching that for themselves.
I think what people like Mark Crilley do is very positive. Whether he is actually a good art teacher or not is irrelevant, imo. His videos inspire people to pursue drawing, whether its in the manga style or not. I think his videos provide a gateway for people who will eventually take it more seriously, but don't want to waste time on the "boring stuff". Eventually the serious ones will mature to a point where they realize they have to build more of a foundation, and even if some don't, so what--they probably wouldn't have learned anything at all if weren't for YouTube tutorials.
Ante Bellum wrote:If you're older than, say, fifteen and you rely on Crilley's videos, you need to stop.
Xeno wrote:How about him being in the spotlight, and "teaching" people to draw is exactly what puts him under the obligation. It's like someone teaching you how to build a car by only showing you how to bolt the doors on a 2004 Chevy Malibu.
Xeno wrote:The, so called, "boring stuff" is what everything in illustration relies on. You can't be a good illustrator and not understand the fundamental concepts. Can people go elsewhere to learn how the basics? Yes, but they're already "here", so let's teach them here. And who is this guy, Steve Jobs? Good, not generic, instruction and demonstration is what inspires people to achieve on their own. Instruction is, fundamentally, about giving other people the tools and knowledge to do something on their own, if an instructor can only teach how to do a very specific thing, that person is not a good instructor.
Ante Bellum wrote:Even if Crilley says that anatomy, etc. is a must, it doesn't mean they're going to listen.
Sammy Boy wrote:It is because of watching his videos that I came to realise he must have studied some art fundamentals, and this made me pay more attention to those so-called "boring" aspects of learning art and spend more of my spare time practising those areas, because I want to be better and approach his level of skill. So his "how to draw" stuff has actually helped me appreciate the basics of line work, shading, perspectives, etc.
Sammy Boy wrote:- 1, 2, and 3 point perspectives
- cross-hatching technique
- shading three ways
- illustration process (pencils, inks, and colours)
I for one would really like more detailed instructions on drawing people at different angles and such, like drawing a character with their head bent down, but you're facing them from the front.
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