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Inconsistancy noted

Postby Wolfsong » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:27 pm

Its about the latest women's swimsuits. Basically, why is it that most women will scream when they're seen in their underwear, but are not afraid to walk around in...pretty much that at the beach?
I don't get it.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Nate » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:13 pm

Because swimsuits are meant to be seen and underwear isn't.

Honestly that's really it. While it obviously doesn't make a whole lot of sense, that's just how it works. You can walk around Virginia Beach in a bikini, but if you were walking around in bra and panties you'd probably get stopped by the cops. Likewise, I can go out to the store in shorts and a t-shirt, but if I went to the store in boxers and a t-shirt I'd probably get in trouble, even if the boxers were about the same length as normal shorts. Same thing with speedos, I could wear those to a beach with no problem but if I wore tighty-whities (not that I do ugh so uncomfortable) it'd be really gross.

And in the end, it honestly just boils down to "swimsuits are meant to be seen, underwear isn't."

Honestly I think people should quit being so self-conscious anyway. Give up shame, like I've done.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby K. Ayato » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:47 pm

Nate pretty much answered it. You have to take the environment into consideration. At the beach, it's more or less expected for a woman to wear some kind of swimsuit, be it a one-piece or a string bikini. Also, don't ignore the fact that most women (if not all) also employ a beach coverup, such as a sarong or a terry romper. And let's not forget that some want to show off their bodies 'cause now they've lost weight and can fit into a cute bikini without feeling self-conscious.

With underwear, as Nate put it, it's not supposed to be seen. Granted, some women wear clothes that reveal the undergarments, but even so, it's not called underwear for no reason whatsoever.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Ante Bellum » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:53 pm

K. Ayato wrote:it's not called underwear for no reason whatsoever.


Or, in the UK, just pants.

There's a joke in there, I think.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Nate » Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:42 pm

But even before she can get her knickers on, I've seen everything.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Wolfsong » Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:32 am

Put simply, I've deduced people are crazy.

Nah, just kidding. Partly. Thanks guys, I suppose I'll have to live with this answer for now, and just keep praying modest one-pieces come back into fasion.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Nate » Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:49 am

Probably not likely, as most women I know dislike one-pieces due to the fact that it's much more annoying to try and make a quick trip to the toilet wearing one. It's a matter of convenience. Besides, it's not as if all two-piece swimsuits are string bikinis, there's plenty of two-piece swimsuits that are generous in their coverage. I think there have been links to a couple of sites like that when this subject comes up.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby K. Ayato » Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:43 pm

There's always the tankini. Modesty of a one-piece with the convenience of a two-piece. I've seen swimsuits in catalogs that come with the option of ordering it either tank or tankini style and they have very nice colors and patterns.

Plus two-piece swimsuits have a variety of options for both tops and bottoms, not just the bra-and-panty look. Some have the tank top, and bottoms include skirted or even swim shorts.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Ante Bellum » Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:45 pm

For your sake, I hope you never stumble across a nude beach.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Wolfsong » Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:54 pm

Ante Bellum wrote:For your sake, I hope you never stumble across a nude beach.


Ugh, heaven forbid
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Ante Bellum » Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:00 pm

I had a chance to go to one once, if I recall. Though I must have been busy or just too far away. So yeah. They're around.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby K. Ayato » Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:03 pm

^ Hahahahahahahah
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Xeno » Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:21 pm

Wolfsong wrote:
Ante Bellum wrote:For your sake, I hope you never stumble across a nude beach.


Ugh, heaven forbid

Yes, heaven forbid other people don't adhere to your standard of modesty.

As far as the real topic of this thread goes, there is nothing wrong with two piece bikinis. But there are one-pieces available for teenagers and adults if that's what you want.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Nate » Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:26 pm

When our ship docked at St. Thomas or St. Croix (can't remember which one it was), there was a topless beach there. I didn't go to it because I was too busy drinking drinks that were three feet tall, but a couple of guys from the ship went and said it was pretty much just old women there, not really anybody you'd actually want to see on a topless beach.

So yeah I can imagine people not wanting to go to a topless/nude beach not because of modesty reasons, but because nobody wants to see fat hairy guys like me naked. To those people I say too bad, if there was a nude beach around here you can bet I'd be on it because seriously man clothes suck in the summer.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:54 pm

It's really because society makes up rules. That's really it.

Why don't you just wear boy swimshorts if finding a modest one-piece is too difficult for you? Granted I think one-pieces are pretty modest anyway...
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Atria35 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:54 am

^ One pieces are actually coming back into style and are easier to find than many years before. I haden't bought a swimsuit the last few years because of it - I'm not really comfortable enough with my own body to even wear boy shorts and a long top - but this last year I found a number of them in my size and awesome styles.

But basically what everyone else said - it's a matter of what society says it's okay to be seen in and not.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Nate » Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:47 pm

Oh sure, girls get to wear men's swimming trunks but I put on a bikini and suddenly I'm talking to the police.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Ante Bellum » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:54 pm

Next time, try a changing stall.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Xeno » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:06 pm

And maybe one that doesn't involve a thong bottom.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Nate » Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:27 pm

If wearing a thong bottom is wrong then I don't want to be right.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Wolfsong » Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:01 pm

I see this thread has turned into a place to make jokes at my expense.

No, no hard feelings. Thanks all for your answers.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Nate » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:38 am

I didn't see anybody making jokes at your expense, but I made a few at my expense.

Unless...wait. Are you me?
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Ante Bellum » Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:18 pm

And the plot thickens!
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby SilverToast » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:44 pm

I'm confused as to why this is in Christian Growth Q&A.

Bible -> ??? -> swimsuit -> ? -> profit?
Hmm... this might work.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Nate » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:52 pm

I'm guessing it's in this forum because it expresses confusion at modesty standards in the US. She's not alone in this; I used to wonder why it was okay for someone to walk around the beach in their bikini but not walk around in their underwear in the same place. Then I realized the answer was as simple as "One is meant to be seen, the other isn't." It's weird, but that's the way things work.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Wolfsong » Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:58 pm

I guess that answers the question then.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Nate » Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:31 pm

Yep. And if you think about it, this isn't the only inconsistency we have in our modern society. For another example that works in the opposite direction, think about pajamas. You may wear pajama pants and a pajama shirt to bed. Would you go out in public in your pajamas? Probably not. But they cover as much as a shirt and pants, so why wouldn't you wear them in public when they cover you just fine? Because pajamas are not meant to be worn in public, they're meant to be worn in your house. Even if they cover your body as much as (sometimes even more than) regular clothes, you still wouldn't wear pajamas in public.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby K. Ayato » Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:42 pm

People (especially ladies) still do that. Just ask Stacy and Clinton.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Ante Bellum » Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:10 pm

It's still not as embarrassing as wearing a Snuggie in public.
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Re: Inconsistancy noted

Postby Sheenar » Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:53 pm

I go to the store not infrequently in pajama pants and a t-shirt.
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